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Sunday, February 9, 2020

Scooter NOT Moped!

I understand that under law these can be clasified as mopeds, but they aren't. Especially the 50cc's, with the restrictions, and larger bikes are also classified as motorcycles, they are not. Typically the license plate will say motorcycle on either one. They are not mopeds. I cannot stress this enough, I am a stickler on proper vehicle classification. TECHNICALLY they are SCOOTERS, much like how everybody calls an SUV a truck despite many of them sitting on car and minivan platforms. Or people calling the likes of El Caminos or Rancheros trucks, they are Coupe Utility Vehicles. There are similarities, but they are otherwise different vehicles that serve the same purpose, the only classification they share is; they're both motorbikes. Yes this is a mini rant and I know the morons who oughta know better- the manufacturers call them mopeds, and I think it's a disgrace. The second party who in their pride should know proper vehicle classification in general are gearheads, such as myself. I knew of one or two scooter mechanics that would be bordeline rude if you called them mopeds. Also the Honda Cub and Lazer are nether, they are basically a motorcycle like the Grom, with no pedals and a manual transmission.


I do like mopeds, I currently have a 1980 Garelli Super Sport XL, waiting to be built. Now mopeds are closer to actual motorcycles than scooters, they are basically the ancestor to motorcycles, it's how they started out. They predate scooters. Were basically motorized bicycles that started to rely more on engine power, than pedaling.

MOtorized PEDal bike differences
  • Typically all steel frame aside from certain bikes such as the Tomos Streetmate, normally the frame is the "body" of the bike
  • Front mounted gas tank of some kind aside from the likes of the QT50 that has a rear mount tank
  • More motorcyle or bicyle in appearance
  • Typically large wheels, generally 14", 16", 17" more akin to motorcycles, typically spoked, there are some with or optioned with alloy mag wheels
  • PEDALS! Mopeds excluding the weird Tomos here and  there(the streetmate can be had either way; still moped) always ALWAYS have pedals, they are there as a secondary(though one is hardpressed to use other than for starting) way of operating the bike.
  • Commonly single variated or single speed
  • Running on a closed electrical system(lose a head or tail light and the bike won't run) controled by points versus a stator, normally 6 volts DC, no CDI or Battery
  • Starts by PEDALING either fowards or backwards, sometomes with aid of decompression lever
  • Always two stroke
  • Will be found with step over frames
  • Always carburated

Scooter differences
  • Plastic body over frame
  • Typically smaller wider wheels(Other than certain uncommmon models like Scarabeo)
  • Always a step-thru frame design
  • Fully manual transmissions
  • Continuously Variable Transmissions
  • 12 volt CDI AC or DC electrical systems with a  real stator/generator
  • Electric start
  • Over 50cc's of displacement offered
  • Commonly 4 stroke engines
  • Mag alloy wheels or steelies
  • Disc brakes
  • Rear or floor mounted fuel tank
  • Can be vee or parallel twin cylinder engine
  • Optional EFI


Simularities
  • Dual variated
  • Semi-auto or semi- manual transmission
  • Offered with two stroke engine
  • Offered with 50cc displacement
  • Motorbike
  • Has two wheels
  • Drum brakes
  • Can be carburated
That about covers it and if that's not enough for you to figure it out... I don't know what to do with you.

Welcome!

It's da Jax, again. As a fan of the GY6 chinese and taiwanese scooters, I hope to provide as much information as I can, much like my panther page hopefully it will be updated with all current information, tips, tricks and et cetera. Like the other page I will be compiling any bit of information where I can find it.
 Introduction
 The Gy6 engine is known as a Honda clone, they at one time had set up for a chinese company or two to build engines for certain bikes and these companies kept the desigm for themselves after Honda nolonger used the engine. They are simple- yet fairly high maintanance engines. They have a simple slosh and splash gravity oil feed system that requires the oil be changed at the longest, once a month. The valves need to be adjusted about every six months. They do take to mods well and can make upwards around twelve horsepower.

The bikes themselves tend to use the same bodies or variations of them across multiple models and marques with a few unique models that may be specific to a brand and unshared. Most of the bodystyles are named.  They used to be known for having subpar plastic farings, I think they've improved since their appearance in the late 90s, early 00s.